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My poor old brain is deteriorating. I'm sure RAW talked about reports of the Sun having a visible penis to some shamans (I seem to recall him relaying a first-hand report from someone), but I'm damned if I remember which book it was in. At least, I'm pretty sure it was RAW. Anyone recall the book?
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Re: The Sun's Penis!
Wed, January 21, 2009 - 9:47 PMhmmm, maybe it's time to put away the gay porn -
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Wed, January 21, 2009 - 10:15 PMo_O
Well, not the reply I was expecting. I don't recall any gay porn in RAW's work. But thanks anyway.
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Re: The Sun's Penis!
Thu, January 22, 2009 - 12:26 AMFair enough. I was hoping that was the case! -
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Thu, January 22, 2009 - 1:10 AMRAW was a big fan of jokes, especially filthy Irish limericks. -
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Thu, January 22, 2009 - 11:49 AMThere once was a Sun for Nantucket...
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Thu, January 22, 2009 - 8:32 PMJust last night someone imparted a Jung anecdote regarding a patient reporting seeing a solar penis swaying majestically back and forth...and then Jung digging this up in gnostic texts....
around this same time,
Crowley was referring to his own trip as
"Solar-Phallic"
(I love the fact the Leary, on the other hand, sees the sun as a vast, radiant Ovum!)
Yet many many are they who have seen the sun's rays as phallic fecundators of us, the terrestrial forms. -
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Thu, January 22, 2009 - 9:25 PMI'm with Leary's radiant ovum wisdom theory. The Sun being the chief source of Light, Heat and Life in our solar system and the radiant ovum being the chief source of Light, Heat and Life in our human system.
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Fri, January 23, 2009 - 2:54 PMI should have dropped by earlier to update: Whoever was mentioning this (and I'm even less certain it was RAW at this stage) would have been discussing Jung, because everything I remember about the quote is from Jung's "Psychology of the Unconscious":
books.google.com.au/books
Which is exactly what your friend was relating. It's just a shame I've never read any Jung.
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Tue, January 27, 2009 - 6:12 AM"Jung (1971) gave a more convincing example [of an archetype]. He recalled an encounter with a paranoid schizophrenic in the psychiatric hospital in which he worked who told Jung to look at the sun. If he did so, he would see the sun's penis. If Jung were to move his head from side to side, the sun's penis would also move, and that was the origin of the wind.
"Though he had read widely in philosophy, anthropology, archeology, religion, and history, Jung had, [sic] at that time never come across such an idea. However, 4 years later, he was reading about the Mithraic cult, a religion that spread from ancient Persia to Asia Minor and thence to the Roman Empire in the first century AD. One of the visions in the ancient text explained the origin of the wind by proposing that a tube hangs down from the sun from which the wind emerges. Jung immediately recalled the hallucination of the patient in his hospital several years previously. He then thought about this image more extensively and realized that the Holy Ghost, which is described as a "mighty rushing wind," was sometimes depicted in medieval paintings as impregnating the Virgin Mary through a tube from the heavens that reached down under her robe. This theme and image is [sic] sufficiently uncommon that it is much more difficult to account for its occurrence by proposing cultural transmission. Jung assured himself that his psychiatric patient could not have read the volume on the Mithraic cult and was not acquainted with medieval painting."
This is from Theories of Personality by David Lester. "Jung (1971)" refers to The Portable Jung, although the original source is probably Jung’s Psychology of the Unconscious.
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Re: The Sun's Penis!
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 2:56 PMThere's gay porn in the Sex Magicians? I should finish reading the damned thing. When I put the thing down, I still hadn't gotten to anything which hadn't been recycled for Schrodinger's Cat.
I must admit to being biased against eTexts. They're great for searching, but crap for reading.
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